July 10th, 7:08pm 0 comments

Wrap-up & Photos | To climb again - a return trip to Denali (Mt McKinley)

Hi Folks,

Well, we were successful with goal 1 (returning home unscathed) and unsuccessful with goal 2 (summiting the mountain). 

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- Use this link to Bill's YouTube channel if the ones in Picasa are too grainy.

We arrived ahead of schedule (the final itinerary is below) at most every one of our camps. In eleven days we went from 7,200' base camp to 17,200' camp (the camp from which most teams make a summit bid). After spending two days at 17,200' we decided to abort the mission and leave the mountain. The weather forecast for the coming days was bleak. Temps were to top out at -5 F and get down to -15 F. Add to this winds in the 20-30 mph range and you have dangerous climbing conditions. The farther out the forecast the worse the weather was to get. Staying at 17,200 to wait out the weather was not an option. The body breaks down due to the altitude and the weather can make life extremely uncomfortable.

Instead of retreating off the mountain one option we considered (albeit briefly) was to return to 14,000' camp and wait for the weather to turn in our favor. This would involve breaking camp, descending the challenging ridge to the top of the fixed lines, descending the fixed lines on the Headwall and returning to 14,000' camp. After waiting out the weather for an unknown amount of time (turns out it would have been nearly 7 days) we would then be faced with ascending the Headwall, the fixed lines, and the challenging ridge back to 17,200' camp -- all the while carrying all our necessary food, fuel, clothing and gear (since we would not have cached any gear on the ridge). Mentally and (probably) physically we did not believe we were up to the task. Too daunting, too draining, too much.

We instead beat a path to base camp and hopped a plane to Talkeetna. Man oh man did the burger (with Fat Ass sauce) at the West Rib Pub taste awesome! :) 

Looking back on the journey I have no regrets or woulda, coulda, shoulda's. It was a great trip. The weather was better than we could have hoped...at least where we were (the weather above us was a different story). Physically I found the trip less demanding than in 2007. I credit this to the fact my training was better (more sled pulling and strength training) and I was mentally prepared for what laid ahead.

Thank you for the support extended to our team during the journey. Your interest is appreciated. 

As for the question of "when are you going back?" Not sure. I may never go back. Living on an ice cube for 2+ weeks may not be my cup of tea. There must be more enjoyable ways (like warmer and do not involve wearing crampons) to spend ones vacation days.

Of course, I did lose 13 pounds in 16 days (back to my high school weight) so maybe I will go back if I need to quickly shed poundage. :)

Take care,
Rob

Itinerary (final)
Day 1 - afternoon - fly to Base Camp 7200'
Day 2 - Base Camp 7200' (6:00) to Camp 1 7800' (11:00)
Day 3 - Camp 1 to Cache 9,800' (Chris, Joe and Rob); Camp 1 to Camp 2 9,400'
Day 4 - Camp 2 (6:15) to Camp 3 11,200' (11:30)
Day 5 - Camp 3 to Cache 9,800' (Joe, Rob, Chris); Camp 3 to Cache 13,500' [Windy Corner] (Dave, Stony, Bill, Ken)
Day 6 - Camp 3 (10:30) to Camp 4 14,000' (17:00) [Stony stayed behind at Camp 3]
Day 7 - Rest day
Day 8 - Stony & Cache 13,500' retrieval; it was 90 degrees inside the tent in the afternoon!
Day 9 - Camp 4 (14:00) to Cache 16,000' (21:00)
Day 10 - Rest day - pancakes!
Day 11 - Camp 4 (12:00) to Cache 16,000' to Camp 5 17,200' (19:45) - Stony stayed at Camp 4
Day 12 - Rest day; 10 below zero in morning
Day 13 - Decision made to abort the mission - no summit attempt to be made; Camp 5 to Camp 4
Day 14 - Intended to move from Camp 4 to Camp 1; left in a whiteout and camped at 13,200' between Windy Corner and Squirrel Hill; dusted by an avalanche
Day 15 - Dave, Chris, Joe and Bill move to Base Camp; Ken, Stony and Rob move to Camp 1
Day 16 - Camp 1 (05:00) to Base Camp; many, many crevasses passed and crossed - no falls; return to Talkeetna; midnight flight to Denver 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rob Cobb <robcobb2@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 15, 2010 at 16:00
Subject: To climb again - a return trip to Denali (Mt McKinley)
To: Rob Cobb <robcobb2@gmail.com>

Howdy All,

On May 29th I will be making another attempt to summit Denali, aka Mt McKinley. The mountain, rising 20,320 (6,194m) above sea level, is the highest peak in North America and one of the world's Seven Summits. In 2007 our team made it to 17,000f on the mountain and were turned back by fickle weather, poor health and lack of time.

This time around the makeup of the team has changed but the goals (in order of importance) remain the same. 
1. Return home with all our appendages intact and fully functioning
2. Achieve #1 and visit the summit

Team  name: To Zee Top 2 (TZT2)
Members: Dave Covill (CO), Ken Gurvin (CO), Chris Covill (MA), Stony Burk (NH), Bill Urbanski (PA), Joe Burke (CA) and myself (CO)

If you are interested in monitoring the climb you have a couple tools at your disposal. 

http://tzt2.posterous.com - This is our blog, where posts will be made daily (or nearly). If you subscribe to the blog then new posts will be automatically emailed to your inbox - no need to visit the blog (after initially subscribing) unless you want to comment on a post or read prior posts. To subscribe select the *Subscribe to this posterous* link in the right-side navigation panel in the Subscribe section.

SPOT - Our team will be carrying a SPOT Satellite GPS Messenger device. With this we can send (and save) our location and you can track the climb (via our SPOT Shared Page) in near real time using Google Maps. You will also find the SPOT link on our blog.

http://flavors.me/tzt2 - This is a launchpad for the two sites above. Isn't the photo super cool? Not my shot though.

Let me know if you have questions or have difficulty accessing the links.

May the mountain gods smile down upon us,
Rob
Posted by Rob
June 16th, 2:14pm 6 comments

Wrap Up from Dave

Wow ! Great trip, DESTINATION wasn't achieved, but the JOURNEY was
marvelous. What a wonderful group of friends to hang out with for over two
weeks !

We made the right choice to come down, the weather would have pinned us
down for days if we had stayed at 17K longer. We believe no one summited
for a number of days in a row in there.

We should have elected to stay at 14K camp another day due to the bad
weather, but the decision was made to head down, and we had to hole up at
the flat area called the Polo Grounds between 13,300' Windy Corner and the
top of Squirrel Hill at 12,400', roughly at around 12,700'. To clarify, a
large avalanche came down the face of the West Buttress ridge on Climber's
Left, and the debris stopped maybe 400' from us. The wind from the front
of this blew loose snow onto us, and beyond for a few hundred feet. In the
dark, it was hard to tell exactly what happened, but we have great fotos
from the next day, when it cleared up nicely. The vestibule pole on my
tent snapped, tearing the fabric slightly. The sides and front of both
tents had 2'+ of snow around them. Billy was the only one able to see his
plastic boots in the buried vestibule, so he courageously volunteered to
don them, crawl out the back door, scrounge up a shovel, dig up the
vestibule, visit the other tent to ascertain their well-being, and report
that all the sleds and packs and poles seemed to be visible nearby where we
had left them. Very scary moment (only my launderer will know for
sure...). Turned out to be like a nasty dog merely nipping at you as you
ran from him. Close as I want to come.... We saw a huge avy in 14K Camp
a few days earlier, and people by the dozens ran from it. In actuality, it
stopped about 500' away, but the wind from it blew snow dust over the
entire 1/4 mile across Basin Camp. I wasn't too concerned, and was trying
to rescue sleeping bags from atop our tents where they were drying out in
the sun. Lots of newbies ran in their socks and long underwear, pretty
interesting sight.

re: Stony's decision to not go higher.... He had a tough time with his
breathing going from 7,800' to 9,400' ( a non-standard camp, just enough
walls for our 3 tents). He then had a tough time with his hip going to
11,300' Camp. He then had a tough time with his ankle and foot trying to
go up Motorcycle Hill to 14,200' Camp, and lost feeling in his foot for a
bit. He stayed at 11,300' Camp for an extra day, and Joe came back for
him, then passed him off to Rob at the top of Squirrel Hill at ~12,400',
who then passed him off to me at Windy Corner at ~13,300', wherein I walked
with his gear and him to 14,200' Camp. The others fetched the Cache at
Windy Corner at the same time. Yes, you could say we "cached" old Stone
Man and fetched him. You have to understand that there are many dozens of
climbers, including guided groups and some Rangers, at most of these camps.
We communicated with him via walkie talkies at least once a day. He
maintained our presence at the 14K Basin Camp via the VE-25 he was in, and
the Cook Tent. We existed at 17K Camp in just 2 tents for 6 guys. Stony
was totally insistent on the group continuing to make progress. I believe
he knew at this point he was not going to go higher than 14K Camp, and just
wanted to make it to there. There is a NPS tent there, with a doctor and
many rangers. There are roughly 200 people in residence at 14K Camp at all
times between early May and early July. Stony did not have any breathing
issues beyond the normal huffing and puffing we all do after the 2nd day.
Stony trained very hard for this, and I was sad to see him have to face the
reality that the mountain was going to require more from him physically
than he had in his pocket. Denali is a tough place. Anyone can do it for
a day or two, but to do it day after day, with huge loads, in sometimes
difficult weather, really takes a toll on the body. For his age and
relative size, he did great, but in the end, it was too many little things
compounding for him. Stony will hopefully get to visit Granite Peak in MT
this summer, and become a 48-Finisher. By the way.... He flew from
Anchorage to Hawaii today, by himself, on a wild hair gig, and will visit
Mauna Kea this week before flying back to CO to grab his car and head home.

Bill learned a lot, and is eager for more after tasting Denali. He was
strong and eager the whole trip, and sleeps like a log, a great asset in a
teammate on an alpine trip. His Urbanski wit was present every day. He is
just as much a list-bagger as the rest of us, only his lists go far beyond
the bounds of peaks to include Presidential sites etc.

Joe was our superman, able to leap tall buildings and haul enormous loads
day after day. I felt sad that he couldn't summit, as he was stronger than
95% of the people on the mountain, but it's all about weather and luck. Joe
was concerned with events at home, but still stayed focused on the task at
hand.

Chris was very strong too, and was constantly amazing people with his
ability to create cook tent sites, then fire up tasty meals for all, after
we had all long run out of energy. Ah youth.... He cooked pizzas one day,
then mini-bagels with Canadian bacon and cheddar cheese another. At the
Anchorage airport last night he so thoroughly charmed an older couple from
South Africa they invited him to come and stay with them some day. B-t-w;
he slept maybe a few hours Sunday evening at the avalanche camp, then a few
hours the next night at the airstrip, then a few hours after staying up way
too late in Talkeetna, then a couple hours max on the plane last night.
Dude is functioning on air right now....

Rob was the anchor, keeping everyone sane, never letting me make a poor
decision. Rob slept with the sat phone so we could make the calls every
day. I thank Rob for all he did to make this trip a success, especially
this Blogsite.

Kenny was Mr. Steady, always with a reserve of energy to keep going at his
Gurvin-Speed. His knowledge of alpine skills helped the new guys
considerably, and as always Kenny was willing to share his vast knowledge
at every turn.

Personally, I felt great every day, much better than in 2007 up high. I
learned to eat better, and drink sufficiently. I never had a headache,
never was really out of breath other than the first half hour in 17K Camp.
I think I had enough gas in the tank to have made a strong summit bid, but
it wasn't to be.


SPOT! The dang thing never worked at all. Tried a number of times.
Some guys from WA state ahd an older Spot1, and theirs worked fine. I
plan to test my Spot2 here in CO this weekend, and will report back the
results. Very discouraging...


PHOTOS - we will post some links to photos when the gang gets home and gets
theirs all downloaded.

We needed to have access to better weather info, and to have not moved up
from 14K to 17K until we knew for sure we had a 2-3 day good weather
window. Not sure how to go about doing it better next time...


Dave

Posted
June 15th, 7:09pm 1 comment

Off the glacier and on terra firma

Yesterday, June 14, at about 2pm the whole team flew off the glacier and back to Talkeetna. Joe and I then shuttled back to Anchorage at 6pm to catch our red-eye flights back home. The rest of the team decided to stay the night in Talkeetna (the climbing town with a drinking problem) and will return to the lower 48 in the coming days.

A big thank you to Holly and Beckie for posting during the trip. Enduring those iffy Iridium phone calls could not have been much fun. :)

Also, thank you to all who read the posts and commented. Your support and encouragement were greatly appreciated!

Following is an elaboration on the posts covering our last few days on the mountain. Just to fill in the gaps. 

Sat, Jun 12 - Day 14
Around 2pm we decide to move down from 14 camp and make our way to 7800 camp. The falling snow and the 10 inches of fresh snow already on the ground require us to break trail from the get go. Not much fun in crampons. Near whiteout conditions also ensue. After about 4 hours of slow going we reach the flat area below Windy Corner and above Squirrel Hill. The elevation is about 13,000' and is often used as a cache site. Given the conditions we decide to pitch a couple tents (4 sleep in Dave's "Taj Mahal" and 3 in a VE25) and wait until morning to proceed down. We are also hoping a group from 11 camp ascends up to our position so we do not have to break trail. Throughout the evening we hear several avalanches off in the distance, no where near our dwellings. Then at 10:45 things get interesting. A small sluff avalanche (not a slab avalanche) broke loose and stopped more than 100 feet from our tents. The ripple or domino effect from the slide causes a large amount of snow to impact both tents. Dave's tent (and the 4 inhabitants) was moved a few inches, the pole in the vestibule was snapped in half and snow piled up 1-2 feet around the entrance. Bill did yeoman's work in digging out the tent. The incident severely limited the amount of restful sleep that night. 

Sun, Jun 13 - Day 15
The morning was spent waiting for the sun to hit our tents and for a group from 11 camp to break trail. A guided group finally arrived about noon and we made our way down to 11 camp. While waiting for Ken and Stony to come down Motorcycle Hill to 11 camp we feasted on crackers, sausage, cheese -- all the heavy food we could find. If you don't eat it you have to carry it! At around 6pm the whole team heads down to the lower Kahiltna. Ken, Stony and I are headed for 7800 camp while the rest of the team has decided to walk all the way to Base camp (where they proceed to drink more than their fair share of the beer that we cached). 

Mon, Jun 14 - Day 16
Ken, Stony and I depart 7800 camp at 5am and arrive at Base camp at 9am, joining the rest of the (hungover) team. After watching several glacier landing flights (tourists have about 15 minutes to walk around on the glacier and take photos) arrive and depart our plane finally arrives and takes the entire team plus one other climber (and all our packs and bags) to Talkeetna. Turns out poor weather in Talkeetna had prevented us from getting out earlier in the day. And we were lucky to get out when we did because the weather was deteriorating fast as we flew out.
Posted by Rob
June 13th, 6:10pm 4 comments

Revised update

Dave called.  They are making their way down to 9,000' camp today.  They will stay there tonight and continue to 7,000' base camp tomorrow.  Hopefully they will get off the mountain and into Talkeetna tomorrow.  They are glad to be lower on the mountain breathing in the thicker air.  Look for a blog post from one of the team members soon.
Posted
June 13th, 4:04pm 0 comments

13,000'

Rob called Holly this afternoon and reported that they were making camp at 13,000' .  I'm not sure when they left 14,000' camp.  Apparently they were descending very slow due to 3 feet of new snow.  It was a slow process as they were breaking trail in the deep snow.  They are hoping that another team will head down the mountain tomorrow and that they will be able to follow them. 
Posted
June 12th, 7:08am 11 comments

Back at 14,000' Camp

Dave called late last night and reported the team has aborted their summit attempt and has descended to 14,000' camp.  The weather forecast through the weekend and into the beginning of the week called for snow and wind.  They did not feel they could make a safe summit attempt.  They will start down towards base camp today.  How far down the mountain they go today depends on weather conditions and strength of the team.  Dave said the team is in great spirits and that they truly enjoyed the experience. I'm sure their thoughts now are for a shower, burger and a beer!     
Posted
June 10th, 9:50pm 13 comments

Day 12

Today was a planned rest day for the team.  They received the weather report from the National Weather Service and the forecast is calling for snow through the weekend.  So they are now in a holding pattern.  Hopefully there will be a break in the weather and they can make a summit bid. Dave reports that they talked to Stony via the hand held radio.  He spent the day, walking around camp, reading, writing in his journal, reinforcing the snow walls around his tent, and rebuilding their cook tent that had collapsed from the overnight snow. He feels good and his spirits are high.  The team wants to thank everyone for the messages they are leaving on the blog site. 
Posted
June 10th, 5:41am 4 comments

17,2000 Camp!

I received a call very late last night.  TZT2 is at 17,200 camp!   They left camp mid-morning carrying all their supplies in the packs.  The sleds stay at 14,200 as the route is too steep to pull them.  They climbed the fixed lines of the headwall and retrieved the cache at 16,200.  A smart move as now they will not have to climb back down to get it today.  Dave said everyone was amazed by the views as they traversed the ridge of the West Buttress.  One rope team took 7 1/2 hours the other took 9 1/2 to get to camp.  They will spend their time  resting and eating while they wait for the right weather that will allow them to make a summit attempt. Dave said everyone is feeling great and their spirits are high.  Send your positive thoughts and prayers for a safe and successful summit attempt their way.    Mountain Trip (a guiding company) offered a great summary of what  the fixed lines means on their site…

"Fixed lines are put up by the National Park Service to safeguard a particular steep and icy slope, so the team will clip into the rope with ascenders which help safeguard any slips on the ascent or descent. Protection is gear placed in either rock, snow or ice that will allow the rope teams to move together but still stay connected to the mountain should someone take a fall. Learning to efficiently clip through the gear (we call it running pro) in a variety of conditions will help keep everyone safe, conserve movement and keep the move days to a reasonable amount of time." (Thank you 

Mountain Trip!)
Posted
June 8th, 9:46pm 5 comments

Day 10

The team took another rest day today to prepare for the push to 17,000'  camp tomorrow.  The weather pattern has been the same.  Snow off and on all day.  They all feel good, and are excited to move higher on the mountain and wait for the right weather conditions that will allow them to make their summit push.  Stony has elected to stay at 14,000' camp. He has experienced some breathing issues.  Nothing serious, he just feels it would not be wise to push it and move higher.  His spirits are good. 14,000' camp is a great place to be for an extended period of time. He won't alone.   

14,000 foot camp aka the Basin or Ranger camp is a very flat spot on Denali about the size of three football fields. A beautiful place that provides an unobstructed view of the northern areas, Mounts Hunter and Foraker. And the Headwall – the 2,000' climb to the ridge at 16,000' and the route to the High camp and the summit.
The NPS has a seasonal camp there with Rangers and Paramedics on staff. A Lama Helicopter often visits to bring fresh supplies, new staff to the camp or to evacuate a medical victim. 

  
Posted
June 7th, 10:08pm 3 comments

Day 9

It was a quite morning at 14,000' Basin Camp.  It was snowing when they woke up and continued to snow until early afternoon.  Around 2:00 the snow stopped, and they decided they would attempt to carry some gear higher on the mountain.  Dave, Billy & Joe started out first, followed by Rob and Kenny.  Stony and Chris stayed at camp.  They climbed the headwall to the top of the fixed lines at 16,200'.  They decided to cache the gear at 16,200' and not go any higher due to their late start.  They returned to camp mid evening, happy with their progress. They plan to hang out and rest at 14,000', acclimatize a bit more and see what the weather has in store for them.

Acclimatizing properly is essential to safely ascend to high altitudes. Climbers acclimatize by ascending slowly, resting one day for every 1,000 feet  they climb in one day. They drink plenty of liquids and eat healthy food. They also practice a rule of thumb: climb high, sleep low. Climbing high, then descending to lower altitudes allows the body to build up and gain strength with fresh oxygen, digest food better, get sounder sleep and any wounds can heal and they'll feel much stronger by descending. It will also allow them to build up their bodies, worn from the low O2 content, with fresh oxygen.

     
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